Not A Royal Ordnance L7A1
By:
IrmaBecx
So you know how people say tier IX tanks are sometimes more worth it because they are “stronger in their tier” or “stronger tier for tier”? The AMX 30 1er Prototype and the AMX 30 B are the perfect example of this.
It’s a bit of a bad comparison for the 30 B, because the Prototype is perhaps the most exquisitely balanced tank in the game; the finest Medium tank you could ever get your hands on. For all its strength, the 30 B is not that.
And really, it’s a lot to do with the prominent commander’s hatch on top of the turret; an obvious weakspot. The Proto has a flat turret top. Otherwise, the 30 B is the better tank; it has better DPM, better gun handling, better penetration, better shell speed, better accuracy, much better ground resistance values, and it goes faster. The only thing the 1er Proto does better is actually armour thickness and 11% of credit coefficient.
The gun mantlet of the Proto is thicker than on the 30 B, and so is the armour behind it. But in 99% of situations that’s not going to matter. If you are hull down against a Ho-Ri III running calibrated shells, that will likely go through the 30 B and bounce off the Prototype, but that’s because it’s an AP shell and not HEAT.
But as much as I love my Proto, the 30 B always held a special place in my heart. It was one of the first tanks I supertested, around two and a half years ago now, and back then it was a little more, lets say “exuberant”. I do drive the production version on my press account, and I’ve always really liked it; I’ve been meaning to pick one up one day.
The question is, however: do I really need another 105 mm Medium tank, especially in the current game meta?
And the answer is, no; I need two. I need the 121B because it’s a hybrid; a 105 mm Object 140, and I need the 30 B because except for the E 50 M, it’s the only 105 mm Medium tank at tier X that doesn’t have a Royal Ordnance L7A1 clone for a main armament. The 30 B carries the 105 mm mle. F1, and of course that makes it all worth it.
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It’s an interesting story, actually. You may know the Leopard 1, the AMX 30, the STB-1, and the Progetto 65 all come from the same joint project, and the 105 mm mle. F1 was developed for the envisioned “standard tank”, along with the fantastic and oh-so-French Obus G round.
Since HEAT rounds work better without spin stabilisation, the Obus G has an inner and an outer shell connected by ball bearings, and only the outer shell rotates from the rifling. That means you will get spin stabilisation, but the plasma beam won’t dissipate when the shell explodes.
What happened was that Germany adopted the L7 instead of the F1, and each nation ended up developing their own tank based on the prototypes.
For all intents and purposes, the F1 doesn’t differ all that much from any other tier X 105 mm Medium tank gun. Compared to the top of the line L7A3 Bordkanone, the F1 is only fractions worse in every respect except DPM. But it makes me happy knowing every time I fire a HEAT round that’s not a boring old T384E4 or L-38; it’s a spin stabilised Obus à Charge Creuse de 105 mm Modéle F1.
So is the AMX going to be worth fifteen thousand gold?
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In a word? Yes. Not because of the Obus G round, but because the AMX 30 B is a fantastic drive. It’s soo agile, it’s almost like driving a Light tank. And if you are tired of getting smacked in the face in your Leopard every time you poke out to take a shot, there is no better remedy than the 30 B except maybe the STB-1.
That’s a good point, actually. All you have to do is slog through the other Japanese Mediums, and you’ll end up with a tank that in many respects is better than the AMX. The STB has much better armour, better DPM, and the turret is flatter. But it doesn’t quite offer the same freedom of movement the AMX does, and besides I’ve had my STB for ages at this point.
Really, if I wanted to diversify my collection, I’d get a collectible Heavy tank and not a Medium. I’ve had my eye on the VK 90 for quite a while. But I do still fashion myself a Medium tank driver, and I have always wanted a 30 B. 15K gold is steep, but it’s not all that steep, especially since I got most of the gold from watching streams and selling off surplus FCMs.
Anyway, the question is moot, because I already bought it.
But for you, there is still time. You could just grind out the STB-1 and do the hull down thing better. You could slog through the stock PTA; famously one of the hardest grinds in the game, and end up with the non plus ultra Leopard 1; you just won’t bounce anything off your gun mantlet. Or, if you are curious about French Medium tanks, you can wait and get a good deal on the 1er Prototype.
Me, I finally made the decision. It’s not a great bundle, but it is within reason; you get all nine equipment slots unlocked which is my main concern, and you also get the “Corporal” attachment which I think looks cool but wouldn’t normally pay for.
So I set all equipment slots to the left except extra hitpoints, extra engine power, and high end consumables, load up on croissants and paté, grab some repair kits, and load 29 APCR, 13 HEAT, and 7 HE rounds. I’m thinking about running the calibrated shells too, but DPM isn’t fantastic, so we’ll see after a few games.
All done. Time to go. And I’m hesitating a little, because it is a sort of momentous occasion. I’ve driven the tank before; in fact I drove it on the press account just the other day, but it’s always different on my main account.
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First game out was a bust, but we ended up winning. And after that, it’s been a bit of ups and downs, but mostly up. I’ve won a few games where I only did like 1000 damage and didn’t really accomplish anything, but that’s all right. I’m in it for the long haul.
Actually, part of the reason I’ve been wanting the AMX 30 B is I realised how much mileage I’ve been getting out of my WZ-111 5A. I mean, I had a tier X premium for ages; I just never drove it. But it is nice having a tier X go-to vehicle that doesn’t lose any credits, and I’ve been thinking I might want another one.
After a handful of games, it all comes back to me. I remember why I loved this tank so much in testing, and why it’s been on my want list ever since; other than the Object 140, the AMX 30 B personifies the playstyle I aspire to as a tank driver. It’s just so agile.
Agility is not the same as speed, but this could actually be the fastest tier X Medium tank in the game. It’s either the AMX or the Leopard 1.
And speaking of the Leopard, you might say the AMX is somewhere in between the Leo and the STB-1. It’s not as robust as the STB but it’s faster, and it doesn’t quite have the firepower of the Leo, but it bounces more shots. I know you can get a few bounces off the Leo, but you can’t angle up your armour on a ridgeline and get those expected bounces the way the AMX can. The front plate is 55 mm, and then 40 mm closer to the turret. That means it will autobounce either a 120 or a 155 mm shell depending on where it hits.
But your mobility is the real “armour”, and that takes a little getting used to. When I see a fast tank I immediately think of brawling, and you can certainly brawl in the AMX 30 B. But that’s not really its forte; what it does really well is simply go where it needs to be, and positioning should be among your first considerations.
Continuing the Leopard comparison, I feel a different level of confidence rolling out in my new AMX than in my old Leo, and it’s actually a little strange. What little armour you have is about equivalent to being able to put your hand in the way when someone tries to slap you in the face, but even that little bit makes an enormous difference.
To finish off, it’s important to note we are in fact comparing the AMX to the best Medium tank in the game except for the armour. The Leopard has everything, except the one thing the AMX has over the Leo – a gun mantlet.
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So yeah, I feel I made the right decision. But more than that, I feel the AMX 30 B is a tank I’m going to get some real mileage out of, and not just because it’s new to me.
Three things make me think that. It’s fast and agile, which is what I like. It should comfortably pay for its own upkeep. And perhaps most importantly: I’m not scared to drive it the way I am my Leopard 1. I’ve put thirty games on it since I bought it, and things aren’t going bad at all. Stats are up, damage output in healthy, and I’m having fun driving it.
What more could you ask for?
But this is still a fragile Medium tank, the preferred target for campy doom cannons and hysterical Light tank drivers crying over losing their missiles to the impending Sheridan buff. The AMX is the kind of tank people will push on when your hitpoints are down because they think it’s a pushover.
Here is a quick game I had today. Not spectacular, but it shows off the freedom of movement; the go-where-you-are-needed capability, and hopefully a bit of the vim and verve that makes me like this tank so much:
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So should you get one? That’s a big “maybe”.
First of all it’s an expensive tank, and you could actually get something quite similar in the tech tree, although not quite this exact combination of abilities, and for me, the way the 30 B is balanced is a big selling point. It’s a reasonable tank; not too strong, not too weak, and with some definite strengths to take advantage of.
It’s also an extravagance of the highest order, perhaps more so than other collectible or premium tanks at tier X. You don’t buy the 30 B just because you want a tier X Medium, you buy it because you want the particular things it has to offer. If you did just want a Medium tank, there are plenty of options in the tech tree.
But if you like fast and agile tanks, and you don’t need a lot of armour, then the AMX is a wonderful drive; I really am very happy with it. And having played the game going on seven years now, I’m glad I waited to get it; there aren’t a lot of tanks I want that I don’t have already. I have to say this one was worth waiting for.
There are a few issues that should inform your decision. The AMX 30 B has the lowest DPM of any non autoloading tier X Medium tank. Much of the armour is thin enough to get overmatched. And overall, the stats aren’t very impressive. There really are only two things to make up for all the mediocrity; it has the joint highest top speed, and almost the same specific power as the Leopard 1. While lacking around 100 horsepower, the AMX is five tons lighter, making effective horsepower per ton almost exactly the same. 130% credit coefficient isn’t stellar, but it will pay for the upkeep.
This is not what you call a noob friendly vehicle. Mobility is a powerful advantage, but it will only get you so far. It can also quickly land you in more trouble that you can handle.
It’s hard to put your finger on wha’s so great about the AMX 30 B, and if you have trouble seeing what could possibly be so great about it, then I think you should think twice about making the investment. It looks great, it drives great, but none of those things is what makes it great. It’s a hull down tank, but likewise that isn’t really the sum of what it is.
I think what makes me like the AMX so much is the fact it puts my driving and decision making in focus. It’s all about the gameplay and how you take advantage of the fantastic mobility; what situations you can manufacture, and how you deal with ones that develop beyond your control.
As a side note, I can tell you if you are worried about the weak hatch on top, I take very few hits to that in my AMX. And really; why would people shoot at the hatch when your side armour is 35 mm and your upper front plate is 40 mm?
I win more games than I lose in the AMX 30 B, and that’s really all I care about, because this tank isn’t about stats; it’s about driving. It’s about putting yourself out there in a fast and flimsy tank and showing what you are made of. They say Light tanks is the hardest class to play, but this isn’t very far off. Except for the patchy armour and comparatively low DPM, there isn’t a lot to hold you back.
So yeah, it’s thumbs up from me. I love the AMX. But that doesn’t mean you should get one. If you are looking for something fast and extravagant you don’t really need but you want anyway, then that’s a pretty fair description of the AMX 30 B.
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I will leave you with one more game; this one is an unexpected Mastery. I was really just holding the ridgeline on Normandy, but when the red team started pushing towards the A cap, I figured I had to do something about it:
You can see the shots don’t always penetrate, but I’m still not running the calibrated shells. You do notice the comparatively low DPM when brawling other Mediums, and it’s hard to get calculated bounces off the gun mantlet, because they’ll just shoot at your hull.
That is not to say I think the tank is struggling, because it simply isn’t. I don’t win all my games in it, but I do find that when I win, and sometimes when I don’t, I often have those “good games” that are my sole reason for playing at all these days. Bottom line, I’m very happy with my new AMX 30 B.
See you out there. I’ll be in the French sports tank with the spare parts camo.